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on A/S entries for next year......

1. something foodie. take a simple thing like a sauce and research the bejeebers out of it as only I can :). I'm thinking something from Casteau, a source that not many folks know much about (their loss!) and one I helped transcribe, etc from the actual period printed page (which will add to my complexity score ;)). a sauce is easy to serve in the competition setting, would be tasty, and would also help introduce some folks to the idea that medieavl food is not scary nor is it icky. win win!

2. something knitting. this is a new art for me...I've only been doing it a couple years. I have an idea for reproducing a single object, more as an illustrative example ofa  number of things than as a work of art in its own right. I will need to do some museum digging in another couintry but actually have the contacts that this is not an insurmountable problem. alternately to do a reproduction of some of the fantastic colorworked ecclisastical gloves...could I get away with only doing one? I'd be afraid to wear them....it will also be a good way to get the ball rolling on the history of knitting project that EB and i are messing about with....

3. something totally new. hmmm. an entry called "A Laurel Tries Something New" where I take an artform I have little to no experience or knowledge with and produce an object using the experimental rigor and research protocols that I apply to my other stuff. The object itself will likely not be a mastery level product but it could be a good TeachableMoment for others to see that anyone can pick up a new art form and give it a shot, that mistakes will be made, and most importantly, to illustrate the process that I like to see behind the production of an object in terms of questioning how did they did it, what did they do it with, why did they do it, and the problemsolving of applying that info to the modern reproduction of an item.

I'm taking an embroidery class this weekend (I think? havent heard back but I'm assuming I'm in?) and that might be a fun start on something new (Fearga suggested an embroidered coif? an alms purse? a sleeve? a sampler? dunno). the key is to have it be something small enough that I can do a bunch of practice versions and show my progress from the first time to the one that actually gets entered....

much to ponder!

Date: 2009-03-09 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joycebre.livejournal.com
#3 is a class, not an entry. :-) It would be a cool class that I'd go to too.

Date: 2009-03-09 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katanubis.livejournal.com
I wouldn't recommend something like a sauce. Having transcribed and/or translated the piece doesn't add enough to the complexity. Remember that even if you do 4 or 5 variations on a quince paste and use period sources you had to translate yourself, it's still just "an applesauce variation" in the eyes of many judges.

If you're doing a single entry, it might be fun for you to take up a skill you've not tried before and see what happens. If you do an embroidery project, something like an alms bag might be good. You can use a variety of techniques (which *does* count more when you're doing the complexity scoring) because you'd probably also want to so some fingerloop braiding for the opening, and you'd also want to do some tassels. It wouldn't have to be very big, so you could do more than one (showing the progress.) You could also try different designs. And when you were done you'd have a useful, functional object (give it as a gift or for largess or use it yourself.)

Embroidered coifs and sleeves tend to be time consuming and aren't really your period. (Of course, if you wanted to start doing some later stuff...)

Something knitted would be nice. You'd want to make sure that it was a piece that used more than one technique, preferably several.

Date: 2009-03-09 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ornerie.livejournal.com
thanks for the input, although the sauce I am thinking of is a bit more involved than quince paste (and in fact uses quince paste as one of the three sub-sauces, each of which is a reconstruction in its own right)....

I'm pretty familiar with the process and how one can tailor ones entry (and presentation) to best play off the different weights and scoring aspects of the forms :)

even a deceptively simple entry can be presented in such a way that the least educated judge can appreciate the depths and technical challenges that go into the most basic elements, I think. and that would be the fun part!

Date: 2009-03-10 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ya-inga.livejournal.com
"even a deceptively simple entry can be presented in such a way that the least educated judge can appreciate the depths and technical challenges that go into the most basic elements, I think. and that would be the fun part!"

Agreed. Besides simple done very very well is greatly preferrable to complex done halfassedly in my opinion.

Though I know you use your whole ass on all projects my dear ; )

Oh and I LOVE #3! I may be tempted to copy you if you do not mind.

BTW Hope our rowdy songstressing was not too distressing Saturday.....

Date: 2009-03-10 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ornerie.livejournal.com
not distressing to me at all and it pleased VigilBoy so yay! :)

Date: 2009-03-10 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ya-inga.livejournal.com
wel win win for us.

Lovely to see you dear

Date: 2009-03-09 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-i-m-r.livejournal.com
If you go with knitting you could try those knitted puff and slash trunk hose :-)
One of these days I need to re-learn knitting just so I can make those.

Date: 2009-03-09 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ornerie.livejournal.com
egads, do you know how many hours would go into making those?

still, its a neat garment when done right :)

Date: 2009-03-09 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] landsknecht-po.livejournal.com
I have a hose pattern you could fit it too though and I'd be more than happy to make the leather base layer...

Date: 2009-03-09 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ornerie.livejournal.com
hrm, and who would they fit, I wonder?

you're a giver, arent you? :)
Edited Date: 2009-03-09 09:48 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-03-09 10:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ursula
Which object were you thinking of?

There are ecclesiastical gloves that have fancy metal plaques attached to the back. I always thought that would be a cool project, but don't have the metalworking skill. On the other hand, you might . . .

Date: 2009-03-10 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ornerie.livejournal.com
I was looking at some of the fancy schmancy colorworked ones from the 16th and 17th c. wow!!

either that or the kids mitten in the MoL :)

Date: 2009-03-10 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copper-oxide.livejournal.com
I suggest you do Medieval Drawing.
You have done some drawing (I remember them well) so that's not a totally scary subject for you. Now you have the opportunity to expand on what you've done and put that amazing focus of yours towards it.

Date: 2009-03-10 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ornerie.livejournal.com
I am very flattered that you think I could do a passable showing on an art form like that that takes real technical ability! and one that you excel at!

I'm also touched that you remember the cartoons I did in college :) (I'm assuming thats what you're talking about, tho I have to admit I never thought of them as drawing per se....)

Date: 2009-03-11 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copper-oxide.livejournal.com
I know you could do it because
1) you succeed at everything you try.
2) I do remember the illustrations you did in college and there is something there.
3) Cartoons are stylized drawing, Medieval drawings are stylized. Often it's more difficult for a trained realistic drawer to do Medieval drawing than a person who does stylized (ie. Anime, Cartoons, Science Fiction, etc.) drawing because they are used to working in styles.

Date: 2009-03-10 02:30 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] xrian.livejournal.com
On the knitting project, you wrote: *will need to do some museum digging in another country but actually have the contacts...*

Do we get to sponge off your research after you do it? (looks innocent)

Date: 2009-03-10 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ornerie.livejournal.com
funny you should mention that.....
:)

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